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My guess is that Platt uses the talking points about finances he is given by insiders who knew how drastic the problem was and thought selling off property and beating on churches to give more would go toward fixing the huge horror they have been playing down. Platt is the celebrity there for rah rah.

Where is Eliff? What did he know?


"Is this visionary impetus the driving mechanism behind pulling 600-800 traditional missionaries fully supported by IMB only to replace them with 600-800 nontraditional missionaries "potentially supporting themselves financially" rather than taxing the IMB?"

The family I had in missions left when they were required to sign the BFM after 18 years on the field. It did become "micro management" and a lot of money being spent on that micromanagement down to a regional muckety muck flying in to check their cabinets for alcohol because that was the focus for that time. Assuming guilt for no reason.

Other family are in missions like Platt describes. They have to come home for months and travel to raise funds in various churches across the US. They spend a lot of time thinking about and raising money. If we go this route, why would we need Platt?

Think about it. If missionaries have to raise their own funds then why in the world would the IMB think they can enforce SBC mission policies? The missionaries would be sort of self employed non profits.

It could become sort of interesting, though. Think of how well known the Neo Cal problem is becoming out there. Churches might have more questions before they give than Platt and his movement would like.

Andrew Barker

Lydia: What you describe above may not be perfect but it reminds me of how Brethren Assemblies (where I come from) in the UK used to work re missionary funding. Most if not all would go through Echoes of Service, still running, but although there was support and guidance from Echoes, funds were very much home grown. Each missionary had to be supported by local Assemblies and some were 'sent' from more than one. We had missionary conferences each year where missionaries on furlough would come home and give, some long and boring :), talks on what they were doing. At least they were boring when you were 7 going on 8 years old and spending your Sat in a church of 'oldies'. The meringues were good at tea time though. If we were lucky we had a slide show :-O
I can see the attraction of central funding and all being well and good, it should be more efficient in that missionaries can focus on their main task. But it certainly weeded out those who were not 'called'. You needed to be committed to go through that. :)



What is interesting is that some of my extended family who are in other missions organizations seek support that goes to the mission organization for them to manage. My older SBC family membere were appalled. They would not give them money in that manner. However, they would give to them personally as there are a million ways to do that.

In fact, one family member actually set up a non profit for donations that would bypass the mission organization.

So one can see the problems with what Platt is suggesting. If he thinks the IMB can manage the donations to individual missionaries, he might have not thought through how it can play out in real life. Unless he thinks they can micromanage the self employed non profit missionaries?

Scott Shaver

Look for Mohler to put in a fast track degree for "non traditional" SBC "missionaries, probably joined by Aikin.

Scott Shaver

Advil Pete.....really?

I don't think anything short of Mescaline will help you to make sense of this.


One of the hardest lessons in life is to learn that "if they would do it to them, they will do it to me...perhaps even worse". The new "limitless" crop of missionaries should take this into consideration.

I am curious as to why people would trust the IMB at this point with money or their missions career. We are talking about the defrauding of millions of people out of money who trusted it was being stewarded in an honest and judicious way. Now the same bureaucrats who caused the problem are being trusted to fix it? That is where I think Platt is implicated. Talk about unwise. How could he go along with such illogical nonsense?

Scott Shaver

Maybe the throne was positioned to obsure the sight of the treasury during Platt's courtship by the IMB.

Naw.......I don't believe that. He admitted to walking in with eyes wide open.

After they reduced their "cooperative" base by vilifying those who would not goose-step to Rogers, Patterson and Mohler, leaders obviously thought the old "selfish churches need to be more world mission minded and give sacrificially" schtick would continue to keep the money pouring in at previous levels and all would be well in Zion.

Surprise, surprise. Actually, it's not a surprise that multi-million dollar overexpenditures will accumulate to astronomical amounts in a few short years.

Way to play heads-up ball IMB.......NOT!


"... replace them with 600-800 nontraditional missionaries "potentially supporting themselves financially" rather than taxing the IMB?"

SBC YRR church plants in my neck of the woods have been doing just this for some time. They directly take on an "unreached people group" and raise funds within the church to support mission efforts to them. They given minimal or nothing to the CP. Sounds like a good alternative to CP that even non-Calvinist traditional churches might consider, in light of SBC theological and ecclesiological drift, but I doubt the majority would be willing to kiss the CP goodbye. Platt knows that the replacement "nontraditional" missionaries would be predominantly in the 20-40 age group coming from the 1,000 new NAMB church plants each year, which are predominantly reformed.

Scott Shaver


For some reason your post re-conjures some haunting memories of pastoral ministry that four of us friends (ages 57-60, 3 still active as vocational pastors) discussed earlier today by phone. All four graduates of Southern Baptist seminaries (2 PhDs, 2 D.Mins).

The positions we took in the 80s and 9Os left us all with...shall we say "scars".

SBC and seminary were totally off limits for theology students who studied under the likes of Fisher Humphreys or Paul Robertson. In the 80's and early 90's we took our shots, entertained CBF, but egos and turf-protecting became central for all groups.

Watched people switch sides like rats from sinking ships, once again for position. The CR came and went, the winners took the spoils, but they did not know how to lead (NAMB, IMB as cases in point).

An old Roy Honeycutt analogy for the CR went approximately: "This is a day when the ravaging hordes will terrorize like the Dark Ages, and we will move to the safety of our bunkers and protected areas to wait out the onslaught."

We are now "reaping the whirlwind" of poor, ego-driven leadership PLUS the social dynamics that have removed theology and The Bible from even mattering.

Being faithful as Christians and "finishing the course" is important, but that "rope of sand" did indeed loose its "strength of steel" on the pyre of political, greedy, self-inflated altars.

It was washed over by the tide of the CR and back-washed with the ratification of 2000BFM.

Scott Shaver

Meant to address Lydia, not Mary.


An old Roy Honeycutt analogy for the CR went approximately: "This is a day when the ravaging hordes will terrorize like the Dark Ages, and we will move to the safety of our bunkers and protected areas to wait out the onslaught."

Yes! And it really has become a return to the dark ages which is how I view determinism. But you know, one would think a belief in inerrancy would have produced more character and integrity. But instead, it became the thought Reform tactic of doctrine over people.

Scott Shaver

For that matter, you would have thought the Conservative Insurgence would have produced practical, applicable, biblical THEOLOGY.

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