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Ron F. Hale


Thank you!

Things were changing and you have found some golden nuggets while panning in the stream of Baptist history.

The following statements stand out to me:

“…which leads to sin”
“The salvation which the Gospel provides is freely offered to the children of men. Its invitations are alike extended to all, and none are excluded from the participation in its benefits”
“…whether accepting or rejecting salvation—acts freely and from choice”


peter lumpkins

You're surely welcome!!

Scott Shaver

Also interesting to note is the fact that this obvious de-emphasis on strict Calvinism by Baptists happened 5 years before James Petigru Boyce started teaching theology at Louisville in 1859.

Despite being at Southern from 1859 to 1888, might it not be reasonable to conclude that Boyce represented a theological construct (i.e. 5 point Calvinism) and a social ideology (support of slavery) which were waning in influence among many southern church members and pastors (baptist) even prior to his appointment at Southern?

peter lumpkins

Your point seems well taken, Scott. Again, questioning the tacit assumption that Calvinism was King of the Hill in Baptist life in the 19th century has much evidence to back it up.

Scott Shaver

I have a feeling that certain revised histories being hawked today tend to draw geographical demarcation lines between the influence of northern and southern religious sentiment before, during and after the Civil War, especially on the issue of slavery.

Why do such attempts at "interpreting" history always seem to overlook historical nuances which reflect a more homogenized spiritual dynamic among baptist Christians both north and south of the Mason-Dixon eventually leading up to Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation of 1/1/1863?

Scott Shaver

I've gotten off track here. My apologies.

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