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2014.10.13

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dr. james willingham

My, Peter, what about all of those Calvinists who preceded Boyce? E.g., like Roger Williams, Dr. John Clarke, William Screven, Oliver Hart, the Mercers, Furmans, Manleys, John Gano, and the works of John Gill promoted by the Charleston Baptist Assn. for its pastors before Boyce was ever born? Could your problem be that you never heard of paradoxes, therapeutic paradoxes in particular, and that some sinners need to hear such messages? One whole city had to hear a message of unrelieved condemnation, a prophecy of utter ruin, without a single word of invitation, and that from a prophet who did not want to see a one of them spared, not even one of the 60,000 that knew not their right hand from their left. Think of Jonah. And Boyce held second place to P.H. Mell when it came to being elected President of the SBC. Have you read Mell's tract on Predestination?

peter lumpkins

Dr. Willingham,

Yes I'm aware of the Calvinists you mention, including Mell whose book I possess. But what difference does listing any number of Calvinists make to George's claim that Kerfoot dropped two significant doctrines from Boyce's textbook before the end of the nineteenth century? Are you prepared to argue that either limited atonement or regeneration precedes faith is not a significant change? It seems to me that convictional Baptist Calvinists are going to have to sooner or later concede that Calvinism was definitively not a foregone conclusion amongst 19th century Baptists in the south. Founders' historiography continues to bump into the historic record itself. Facts like Timothy George mentions will not cease to challenge preconceived ideologies imposed upon Baptist people.

Lord bless brother.

With that, I am...
Peter

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