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2009.10.21

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GW

For what it is worth, because of NAMB I am able to be in the military as a missionary for southern baptists to our fighting men and women. Because of NAMB I have an endorsing agency that allows me to be open with sharing my faith and teaching the Bible. NAMB has my back in this and we have seen over 300 professions of faith and baptized over 100 in 5 months of ministry this year.
So say what you want but even for its inadequacies NAMB still helps Southern Baptist missionaries reach our nation for Christ.
Could it be better, sure anything or anyone could. But what would the options be for southern baptist chaplains if namb is no longer there?

peter lumpkins

GW,

Thanks for logging on. Also we appreciate your service via NAMB and am glad you listed the spiritual benefit you and others have gleaned from its role.

I do hope you caught my facetious plot in this post. I am not one of those who've a priori made up my mind NAMB should disappear or, at minimum, be rolled into IMB.

Grace.

With that, I am...
Peter

Les Puryear

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't McCall help form the CBF? If so, then why does his opinion matter to us? Just askin...

Chris Gilliam

how winsome!

Scott A Gordon

Les,

Perhaps you should ask this same question to the fine folks at Between the Times. They have picked up the abpnews online article without comment, positively or negatively, from any of their contributors to this point (8:28am Cent. Time).

I agree that McCall's assertions should carry little weight within our convention.

Sola Gratia.

peter lumpkins

Les,

I think it's a good question. I also agree with Scott's recommendation (//link).

With that, I am...
Peter

John

Do you see this as a political power struggle for control of an SBC agency and/or funds, or an real desire to streamline the system to make it more efficient and therefore use more dollars for actual missions rather than support an inefficient bureaucracy?

volfan007

And, the plot thickens, and things continue to get very interesting, and very concerning.

David

Debbie Kaufman

I was wondering the same thing as Les, and In Between doesn't have a misleading headline such as "Word Just In Say Nightynight to...."

peter lumpkins

Debbie,

Since you've come back, you've been cordial. Thank you.

However, know this: I will never allow again this blog to become a dumping ground for either drive-by shooters such as your above comment fully represents or a dirty bucket to trap the drippings of people who cannot control their emotions. It ain't happening, sister.

With that said, I'll let your one accusatory implication stand that I'm a deceiver. Please don't log on again unless you are serious about engaging the issues.

Have a great evening.

With that, I am...
Peter

peter lumpkins

John,

Thanks. I assume you're directing the question toward me. If not, you can clarify to whom you're querying.

Simply put, I see some of the issues emanating confusing signals, so much so, in fact, it extremely difficult to discern what's going on. We'll know more when an official report is released.

Dr. Gerald Harris made an important point in the Christian Index (editor at Georgia state paper) that if the GCRTF would follow through on the early indications coming from them that while the meetings would not be open to the public, journalists would be invited in order to keep Southern Baptists abreast of the movements of the TF, we'd be farther along in our real discussions.

I fully agree. As it is, Dr. Akin is out chasing down "myths". Why not nip them in the proverbial bud by having journalists report credible information? Who knows? It only adds to the confusion.

With that, I am...
Peter

Les Puryear

Peter,

Maybe we ought to make a motion that all board meetings be televised like the Congress does on C-Span. Then they can have all the privacy they want. :)

Seriously though, it gives one pause to think that a secular entity like Congress provides open access to all of its proceedings and supposedly godly entities like SBC boards and task forces are held behind closed doors. Is that ironic or what?

peter lumpkins

Les,

Thanks. I have been an advocate and still am for privacy--at least for now--for meetings held by SBC committees. However, there definitively is a distinction between, say the proceedings of a group responsible for personnel issues, and a group like the TF which holds no potential for harming the private interests of individuals.

With you, Les, I fully support openness in the meetings the TF has. Openness does not mean I am invited to observe. It means responsible journalists from our state papers and Baptist Press are included in these proceedings with no 'gag rule' imposed, of course.

As Dr. Harris rightly observed, there'd hardly be a need to chase down and destroy "myths" if the TF would follow through with Dr. Hunt's original intention to be inclusive in the meetings the TF has.

Grace.

With that, I am...
Peter

peter lumpkins

Debbie,

Good morning, sister Debbie.

As for your early morning point, I have to deliver unpleasantries: it is completely hollow. Not only did I tag the post as "humor" I also made explicit reference to the "facetious plot" in my very first comment. And, the post's content itself was not vacuous of a slice of irony. In light of this, to even suggest my title deceives is just plain nonsense.

I politely informed you not to log on again unless you wanted to engage the issue.

However, apparently from your standpoint, the issue inevitably reduces here to me: I am the issue...virtually each and every time.

Hence, I took liberty to unpublish your comment since your issue--i.e., me personally--had really nothing to do with the post's thrust.

Auf Wiedersehen, Debbie. Ein gro├čer Tag.
With that, I am...
Peter

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