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2008.03.20

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wade burleson

Peter, you complain over alleged mistreatment of you in the blogosphere while on the same day saying to a brother in Christ "My grievance with you is the documentable skewing of just about any source you attempt to employ." In other words, it seems you can dish it, but you can't receive it. My advice to you is to get some thicker skin. You write, people will challenge you, sometimes with harsh language. I do not know who wrote the things you say were written about you above, but get over it. Concentrate on issues and quit playing the martyr. I can guarantee you that people like Sheri Klouda has suffered ten times more pain than you.

Ron P.

Peter,

Methinks Enid has some very thin skin and can certainly likes to dish it out. But man alive, Enid can not take it. :)

God Bless you my brother, and keep the great exegesis and posts coming.

Ron P.

Ron P.

Oops. Sorry for the bad grammar. I should have removed "can" from my final edit:

Methinks Enid has some very thin skin and certainly likes to dish it out.

Ron P.

peterlumpkins

Dear Mr. Burleson.

Is there a particular point in the post you'd like to engage? If so, you are welcome.

As for my alleged 'pity party', all I can do is smile, Mr. Burleson.

May your day be a good one.

With that, I am...

Peter

wade burleson

And since you seem to usually come back in full court defense of yourself, casting aspersions at those who question you, I offer the other quotes in your comment today on Mr. Rogers' blog as an illustration:

Enid’s flow of skewed sources has no end . . .

I’ve never seen such a concentrated pool of pulling quotes . . .

recall Enid’s horrid defamation of Professor Grudem . . .

(they are) manipulating data to make one's case

(you should) allow Enid to wallow in the sty of personal innuendo

Those statements represent an odd way to begin what you commit to do in today's post. You write:

I recast my initial vision of this blog in the beginning being a venue where those who'd like to dissent may freely do so without the all too common harassment from hyped-up, out-of-control literary cyber-critics . .

Uh, Peter, do the words of Jesus regarding a plank and a speck come to mind? Regardless, I'm not asking that you necesarily change your writing style. You seem to be guilty of that very thing which you accuse another blogger of doing in your post - all the while complaining about him.

Don't complain about the casserole if you are the one serving it.

wade burleson

Ron P.

You and Peter are free to say anything you wish about me, and have done so at will. I have no complaint, assume you will continue, and am a better man for it. I would suggest that the two of you either take the heat yourselves or get out of the kitchen.

:)

Personally, I like the casserole quote above better.

:)

jasonk

I agree with you, Wade. The entire time I was reading this post, I thought about the way you are skewered on this blog nearly every week.
It is always with a wink and a smile. What is interesting to me is the time when Peter wrote about how you had called him and asked for his forgiveness for the whole racist comment thing, and he said he forgave you for it. Then he goes on to lambast you for referring to his comments as racist. That doesn't sound like forgiveness to me.
Peter, you need to genuinely do what you say in this post, not just write about it.

Debbie Kaufman

No Enid just believes in fighting back. The skin being so thick, bullets can't penetrate it. I hope Enid continues to stand for those who suffer from such thought such as Sherri Klouda and others to injured to want to come forward and endure more injury.

Debbie Kaufman

That should be too injured to come forward. Another bad faux pas.

The above will be why I continue to blog.

Katie

Debbie said:
"I hope Enid continues to stand for those who suffer..."

We ought to support those who suffer and who have been wronged. However, there is a big difference between standing with someone who has been offended and attacking the person who is perceived as the offender. We cross the line when we begin to attack.

I don't think God is pleased or honored through any of this.

peterlumpkins

Dear JasonK, Mr. Burleson and Ms. Kaufmann,

If any of you have some criticism of me personally, I wish to heavens, you'd come right out and say it without being so doggone allusive about it! Clarity is a jewell, you know...

As for my criticisms concerning the frequent skewedness of Mr. Burleson's use of sources, I possess little fear that I'll be found guilty of either empty accusation or hyprocrisy. More than enough evidence I assembled demonstrated such. And, should anyone care to check my facts, they exist on Mr. Burleson's site, here at SBCTomorrow and elsewhere.

Nonetheless, the readers at large shall judge now whether or not I ooze hyprocrisy as will my Lord then. It comforts me too my fate does not decidedly rest with you three here. I get the feeling my future would not fare so well were that the case.

I do intend to keep my word about the 'thinnest patience' though I will tolerate more when the subject is me rather than the other commenters.

I trust all three of you will possess a grace-filled Easter weekend.

With that, I am...

Peter

volfan007

peter,

keep standing strong on the truth, bro. dont listen to all the negative nellies and gloomy gus' out there. dont let all of thier negative, overly critical, harsh remarks detour you from sharing the good things of God with us. your blog has been a blessing to me.

david

Debbie Kaufman

Katie: Not only do I disagree with you, but it doesn't matter to me what you think.

wade burleson

I wish to heavens, you'd come right out and say it without being so doggone allusive

That classic - from Peter's pen no less - is worthy of a reprint.

Bart Barber

Peter,

If blogging (or its cyber-successors) are here to stay, then we, the first generation of Christian bloggers, need to learn and model how to do it with substance, with love, and yet with a firm commitment to the truth. May you and I both succeed in doing so.

Katie

Hi Debbie,

I’ve waited a few days to write anything back to you. I didn’t want to write something born from my offense at your words. I was offended, but after having read many of your comments on different blogs over the last couple years, it was not unexpected.

I’m just trying to figure out why a woman like you, someone who seems in general to be angry and bitter; a woman with a critical spirit mixed together with an unmovable conviction that her perspective is the only way to look at things; why that woman engages in these types of conversations on blogs? It does not appear that you want to converse, but simply to argue. You are driven to disagree.

I read these blogs because I want to know what other people think. Sometimes that makes me think more about my own convictions and why I hold them. It gives me a chance to compare and consider. Frequently I disagree with comments other people write; but I am not impelled to tell them so every time.

Maybe no one else who reads blogs feels this way, but, for me, this would be a more enjoyable, valuable and edifying pastime without having to read comments like the one above that you left for me.

I wish you the best and hope you are celebrating a joyous Easter Sunday.

Debbie Kaufman

Katie: You are not the victim here. Unless you have lost everything in the name of religion or Southern Baptist, I don't want to hear it.

peter lumpkins

Ms. Kaufman,

Katie definitively has not played the victim on this blog or any I've read. Consequently, your rebuke is completely unnecessary.

Indeed, Katie followed precisely the standard all of us should follow: when we are tempted to retaliate in our speech, wait it out. This she followed. Perhaps an example for you to consider.

Grace. With that, I am...

Peter

selahV

WOW, Peter! a lot's been going on in blogland while I was in Tennessee visiting my dad. Blogging is indeed a tough business.

Katie, I also find myself reading alot and considering matters rather than disagreeing with many folks with whom I could disagree in comment streams. I've found that some things (and often, many things) are better left unsaid. So, no, you are not alone in this aspect. selahV

Katie

Thanks, SelahV. I always appreciate your words! Hope you had a good Easter!

volfan007

selah,

where does your dad live in tn? and, i wish that my family and your family could have gotten together while you were here.

david

selahV

Volfan, daddy lives in Elizabethton, near Johnson City. that would have been great. only I am traveling this time. I'm already in Biloxi area now. Drove down 40 to 75 and on down through Georgia, then Alabama. sorry we didn't get to meet.

Katie, I had a great Easter. selahV

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