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Sep 16, 2010

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Tim Rogers

Brother Peter,

Dr. Lemke has certainly presented a pastoral way of dealing with the doubt found in many people today. I believe there is an element of confusion being injected into the theological debate. I heard a preacher pray one time that "God was pleased by the death of his son". Then he stated something in his pray that God would be pleased in the same way with our worship. I still haven't figured out how the sacrifice of our worship brings about the same "pleasure" to God that the sacrifice of His son did. Jesus' death was the propitiation to satisfy the wrath of God, but it certainly was not pleasing to God to watch His son die. This is some of the confusion that is being thrown around these days.

Dr. Lemke brings us back to the simple understanding of the Gospel. It is good news to be adopted into God's family. Based on the work of Jesus on the cross is sufficient for the salvation of man. If it wasn't then he would need to die again.

Blessings,
Tim

Mary

Would a discussion about "Lordship Salvation" be relevent here? I'm reading a book my son was given in youth by David Platt - Radical. I'd have to go through and find some quotes but he seems to be a Lordship guy. Haven't gotten through the whole book yet but it seems to be one of these attitudes of if you're not selling all your belongings and living in a tent for Jesus attitude than you may not be saved.

I am so grateful for this series by Dr. Lemke because we seem to be seeing more and more of this you have to prove your salvation to the world by jumping through x number of hoops and then maybe we might agree you could possibly be a Christian if you just keep it up til Jesus comes.

peter lumpkins

Mary,

There is a tendency among many young Baptists to fall head-over-heels for the "cheap grace" idea of Dietrich Bonhoeffer's "The Cost of Discipleship." It is very similar to what you describe--namely, if one's not selling all his or her belongings and living in a tent for Jesus attitude then salvation may not be genuine. Ken Keathley addresses this in a round-about-way in his book, Salvation & Sovereignty, when he discusses assurance being wrongly tied to sanctification rather than justification.

With that, I am...
Peter

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