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The Seeking Disciple

Well this time the "attack" came from me though that was not my original intent. Calvinists turned my post on my blog into something to rally around and for the last 48 hours, I have received over 130 e-mails attacking me or my posts.

Ed Goodman

One educated guess would be Matt Svoboda. He's a reformed Liberty student who has been vocal about the Caner situation.

Tim Rogers

Brother Peter,

I also believe one of his encouragers is his dog. I know mine encourages me from time to time. Of course my dog isn't computer savvy enough to send me an email. :)

You are a hoot!

Blessings,
Tim

peter

TurretinFan,

No sir. No soup for you. Your mask hinders your contribution here. At SBC Tomorrow, we are open and revealing with one another.

With that, I am...
Peter

Wade Burleson

Uh, Peter, at least one of your guesses is wrong.

volfan007

Tim Rogers,

Does your dogs eyes glow as it tells you to do things like....well, uh, wear pink shirts? keep living in North Carolina?

And, what kind of voice does your dog have? high pitched? or, deep bass?

David

Stephen M. Garrett

Dear Peter:

I was one who was specifically addressed by James White in Seeking Disciple's blog.

James seems to have a big ego and loves it when he can post such letters where one is "singing his praises."

I just don't see much humility in the man. He seems to me to love debating and confrontation too much. I wonder if too much debating has a negative effect on people. He seems not to take criticism very well. He takes everything as a personal attack, as though anyone who disagrees with him is "out to get him."

I personally think that he violated scripture in how he dealt with Brother Bob Ross.

Blessings,

Stephen

Craig Daliessio

Well one of them was NOT Norman Geisler.

I saw that too and I wondered what 20 year olds college student who, like all 20 year old college students, knows everything in the world wouldn't be crowing about his big victory at L.U. Aren't you SUPPOSED to gloat when you just "took the moral high ground and 'stuck it to the man!"? I'm thinking thats more like someone who enrolled in the Liberty Home Bible Institute and considers himself a real L.U. Student...like Peter Lawford considered himself a Kennedy by Marriage.
You forgot Danny Spratlin who, at 25 knows more about everything than H.A.L. 3000 and also told me he was influential enough to keep me out of LBTS. I suppose being Jonathan Falwell's classmate in freshman year, and a continuing part of L.U. Men's hockey (I played hockey at Liberty and go back during the season to teach bible studies to the boys) won't override his clandestine coercions.
I informed Danny that I was far more concerned about the plethora of mug shots from my pre salvation days keeping me out. He never got back to me on that.
Oh one other person we can be sure DIDN'T write the encouragement...Jimmy White's sister. She was still apparently abused as a child, and he still apparently hasn't forgiven her for standing up for herself. In my neighborhood they would call him a "Struuts"

peter

Wade,

But how may we be sure? ;^)
With that, I am...
Peter

Brennon

I suppose I thank God that in his zeal to criticize everyone and their mother who disagrees with him, James White's influence among reasonable Christians wanes. Every time he calls a Norm Geisler a liar, he just looks more uncharitable and unreasonable. Perhaps that is one bright point to this whole thing.

Brennon

Hey, Stephen, some people seem to be able to handle debates very well and still be charitable and Christlike. William Lane Craig, for instance.

Samuel

I refer again to your labeling James White's tactics as "sub-Christian" and yet you post an article such as this, which has no purpose other than attacking Dr. White personally and speculating about his motives. It is truly eye opening.

But again, you defend Caner despite of the evidence that Dr. White and others have produced, and yet attack White for producing it. Some people seem to think that White is bringing to light these things about Caner because he is reformed and Caner is not, and he has an axe to grind in that area. But it seems to me that the opposite is true. It seems that the reason that you attack White the way you do, is because he is reformed and you are not, and that is where the problem lies illustrated by this comment: "one must nonetheless remain alert to Hyper-Calvinism's most prolific internet blogger".

It doesn't seem to matter how many times White makes it clear he is not a hyper-Calvinist and explains what a hyper-Calvinist is, his opponents don't seem to want to drop that accusation. I actually thing the poster you include for this article is a pretty fair, yet figurative representation of the truth.

Drpenn

LOL!! AMEN. You know, I wondered the SAME thing. I thought, hm...that's really odd. He usually has NO problem posting the names of people who send attacking mail. Mighty Jim White of him to protect his adoring fans.

Be sure to read Norman Geisler's latest - it's GREAT!
http://www.normangeisler.net/infurtherdefenseofcaner.html
Still makes me REALLY wonder why on EARTH LU kicked Caner off the Dean seat....this smells like politics!

Tim Rogers

Brother Peter,

It seems that Brother Wade has made a valid point. At least one of your guesses is wrong--James White's dog.

:)

Tim

Craig Daliessio

Buckle up Friend Peter...Dr. Geisler issued "Son of Defense of Caner" making even MORE salient points and defending my friend in even greater detail. And he pointed out the biblical contradictions with the way Ergun has been treated. I fear your position of 4 parts to the White Novella might be trumped. I am thinking now he might crash a server and this will end up being Tolstoy-esque.
Now I can set up a good chum slick, but Dr. Geisler just threw a bleeding bather in the shark tank.
Heeeere fishy fishy fishy...

peter

Samuel,

Begging pardon. I attacked no one. Nor did I mention White's motives. Instead, I asked a question about White practice: posting names of critics but protecting identities of those who commend. Why? That's all.

Now, if you want to offer a legitimate complaint, I suggest you actually deal with what I've written in this post.

With that, I am...
Peter

A.M. Mallett

What I thought was really amusing was the suggestion that LBTS would get all Geneva like on the young pup and maybe wack him if they found out who he was.

Craig Daliessio

Forgot a few more:
The channeled spirits of John Calvin AND Martin Luther
Lance Armstrong (apparently Tighty Whitey now reckons himself a look alike for Lance, per one of his recent blogs)

Michael Smith

I think one of the people who wrote the emails of encouragement to Dr. White was Ergun Mehmet Caner. Seriously!

Chuck Beem

Peter-

Again, as a lurker who:

1. Is a 'Calvinist'
2. Listens to White's show occasionally

BUT

3. Thinks he should take a chill pill in the way he criticizes people...

I find your comment that this was not White bashing disingenuous. You clearly joked that his dog sent him a letter- i.e., that White lied and made up one of the letters. While I have no desire to see Caner vilified, I also fail to see how your statements here are charitable or helpful in the least. As someone who consistently scolds others for unChristlike behavior, this is certainly starting to feel like a pot/kettle/black situation.

Just my .02. Now crawling back under my little rock.

Chuck Beem

peter

Chuck,

You write, "You clearly joked that his dog sent him a letter- i.e., that White lied and made up one of the letters" (emphasis mine).

Chuck, thanks for stating your reservations concerning White and that you think he needs to take a "chill-pill."

I encourage you to save one for yourself, however. While you have a perfect bead in perceiving I clearly joked that his dog sent him a letter how you can turn right around and suggest I meant White lied has no basis upon which to stand.

If you clearly see I was merely joking around, why on earth would you transform joking around into a literal accusation?

One pill should do ;^)

With that, I am...
Peter

Chuck Beem

Peter-

'Joke' as in mean-spirited jerkiness. I merely pointed out that by giving a list of supposed letter-writers you implied that perhaps, just perhaps, he made it up. Hence, dog was an option. I fully admit you didn't say it explicitly and I never said you made a 'literal accusation'. However, giving the overall tenor of your blog these days it certainly wouldn't be a stretch to take it that way.
My point was merely that the more you rag on White the more you look like him- metaphorically speaking of course. You look nothing like Lance Armstrong after all.
I'll take 'one pill' when you have a drink. . ;^)

Chuck

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