Wade Burleson on Cornbread, Buttermilk and the Alleged Racism of Peter Lumpkins Against Dwight McKissic

  I grew up in middle Tennessee in the 50s.  Our family was very poor, though like most poor folks then, we really didn't know we were poor until we got older and some nut told us we were.

One distinct ritual I remember as a little boy was going to Sollie Smith's farm for fresh eggs and fresh milk--especially fresh buttermilk.  I learned from Daddy the satisfaction of a cold glass of fresh buttermilk with crusty cornbread that only Momma could make.  Sometimes I'd have to settle for crackers or perhaps biscuits.  But nothing took the place of crusty cornbread.

From my Tennessee homeplace growing up, to Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, Louisiana and presently, Georgia, one cultural ritual I carried along the journey was the satisfaction of a cold glass of buttermilk with some homemade crusty cornbread.  And, up until a few years ago when I was diagnosed with diabetes, I ate my delicious snack just about every week.  Nonetheless, due to the high sugar levels in buttermilk, I said goodbye to my old friend--at least as a routine.  Every once in a while, I'll buy a quart and sneak a glass.

                     

On New Year's Day, Kathy & I made a big pot of vegetable soup.   Well, nothing goes with vegetable soup like good old skillet-fried cornbread.  So, we fried up a few fritters in the skillet.  Needless to say, all I could think of was some good old buttermilk to go with it.  But I just dealt with it and enjoyed the soup.

I was running a little late getting home last evening, but passing a little store not far from home, I happened to remember the cornbread in the refrigerator.  Giving into cravings for my splendid satisfaction, I whipped into the parking lot, ran into the store and out I came with a quart of buttermilk.  I simply reasoned a glass of buttermilk and cornbread could serve me well as my belated supper.  And, boy was it good.

After eating it upstairs with my Hun, I came downstairs to check email and perhaps a few blog sites before retiring for the evening.  I heard a strange wooing calling from the Kitchen.  It was my buttermilk begging me to mix it with the last fritter in the frig. I told it "no" several times but the voice conquered me and I gave in.

Sitting down in front of the computer with a glass of buttermilk and cornbread sitting approximately 18 inches from my reach, I fiddled a minute or two and logged on over at SBCToday.  Dwight McKissic had, though buried in a comment to another, asked a question he wished I'd answer (comment #33). 

And, as I began typing the words to Pastor Dwight--Lord knows this, I kid you not--my left hand moved from the keyboard and scooped a huge spoonful of buttermilk and cornbread out of the glass and placed it into my mouth.  I was literally chewing that mouthful of buttermilk and cornbread--and enjoying the heck out of it too--as I typed these words to him:

"If you are expecting a ‘yes/no’ response from me concerning your question, I’d get me a big glass of buttermilk and cornbread were I you, for a long time awaiteth thee still."

As I was relaxing and enjoying my glass of buttermilk and cornbread, I was suggesting Pastor Dwight might as well sit back, relax and enjoy a big, cool glass of buttermilk and cornbread because the question he'd posed that I answer would not be receiving an answer anytime soon, for it was not a 'yes/no' kind of question.  That's it...all of it.  Nothing hidden, no mystical meaning...no pun.  Nothing else. Nothing.  I scraped my glass, brushed my teeth and went to bed.

Today, however, Wade Burleson had other plans for my Cornbread and Buttermilk.  On his post entitled, "On Cornbread and Buttermilk:  Racism in the Southern Baptist Convention" he had this to say about my metaphor addressed to Dwight McKissic (note my comments are all in brackets):

"I was absolutely shocked by a handful of statements, addressed to Pastor Dwight McKissic, that were in the comment section of the on-line letter. There were a few who took Dwight to task for alleging the SBC was racist, and one Southern Baptist minister [yours truly] even went so far as to respond to Dwight with the following: [#1] The charge of racism toward the SBC is not new–especially coming from Arlington.  Do not expect it to die down soon . . .  "Is the SBC racist?" I think I might just be sick."

[Wade quoting my comments he says were a response to Dwight]

"In an attempt to get the comment stream back on track with the original question for which Dwight wrote the letter, Pastor Dwight McKissic laid down the racism concern and asked again asked the million dollar question - which had nothing to do with race."[Wade's commentary on the thread flow]

"The only question that I want answered and if I get an answer to this question the comment thread would not be hijacked is this: “Are persons who pray in tongues in their personal devotions welcome in SBC life?”[Wade quoting Dwight McKissic]

"The same Southern Baptist minister [yours truly again] who earlier confessed to possibly being a sick man responded to Dwight's question with the following words:[Wade setting up my 'next' comment to Pastor Dwight]

[#2] If you are expecting a ‘yes/no’ response from me concerning your question, I’d get me a big glass of buttermilk and cornbread were I you, for a long time awaiteth thee . . .[Wade quoting part of my comment]

"I was stunned when I read that comment. The very concern that Dwight McKissic raises within his on-line letter is proven by an unfortunate comment that epitomizes white, Southern aristocracy over African Americans." [Wade's commentary on my comment to Pastor McKissic]

I must confess this is really hard for me to address for several reasons.  First, I learned a long time ago to rely on my integrity before my Lord and the valued judgments of those who, though tough as nails at times in brutal honesty, I know have a deep love for me and an understanding about me.  That saved me lots of heartaches in my latter years as a Pastor. 

Making tough decisions inevitably draws lots of critics.  Finally realizing I did not have to answer all criticisms or rumors or, in this particular case presently, false charges against me was truly liberating.

Secondly, it's hard because a beautiful image I brought from 50 years back in childhood--indeed one of the more pleasant memories of my Dad and me, since Daddy was an alcoholic and most of the images I recall was with a beer in his hand while staggering around room to room--that beautiful recollection, not to mention the savory satisfaction to my once-in-a-while hunger cravings, has been entirely pillaged by a blogging squat living in Enid, Oklahoma. I'm sure I'll get over it soon enough...three or four glasses maybe...I wonder if Hun will buy a self-pity trick:^)

Thirdly, because the commentary on the thread ending in Mr. Burleson's personally implicating me as ethnically racist is so superficially created, it really pains me to deal with it.    Wade Burleson exploits comments like he exploits sources as most of his dissenters understand.  Let me show you what I mean.

First, comment #1 above, was definitively not to Dwight McKissic as Wade explicitly states.  I wrote three comments on the SBCToday thread, the first two of which were to SBCToday in general.  The first comment I posted around 6:30am before I left home for the office.  Wade did not mention this comment.  There I stated my own view of Dwight McKissic's response to criticisms of his TBN panel discussion:

The readership rightly commend you for posting this needed response by Dwight McKissic to the TBN disaster. I personally appreciate his warm style and personableness in his lengthy response...I sincerely note the clear distance in theological views he has placed between himself and the other two guests...[and after offering some deficiencies where I think he struggled, I summarized]...All in all, however, Dwight McKissic’s response should be well received by most Southern Baptists who were concerned by the TBN panel discussion.

Then in my second comment, the one Wade partially quotes above [#1], which again, is directed not to Dwight as Wade incorrectly states, but to "Dear SBCToday".  Note carefully in the brackets as I explain precisely to whom the collage alluded (All readers may look for themselves and easily connect the dots):

Dear SBCToday,

The charge of racism toward the SBC is not new–especially coming from Arlington.  Do not expect it to die down soon…[I logged this around 3pm.  After beginning so well in the morning, I was at a total loss how the thread went sour but knew quite well Pastor Dwight was not reluctant to bring up racial prejudice in our Convention.  This comment alludes to Tim Rogers who had his hands full already dealing with the racial issue and the link was the story about Pastor Dwight's implicating his fellow trustees with racist motives.  For Wade to make like I directly insulted Pastor Dwight with this remark suspiciously looks to intentionally twist the facts]. 

"Southern" as in "Southern Baptist Convention" is supposed to make us racist?  Oh my.  Here we go again with an essential dialog about changing our name…[This was to Allan Stoddard's #13 comment about 'Southern' as in SBC.  Again, nothing to do with Dwight]

"The worship hour on Sundays is still the most segregated hour…"  No, it is not.  Segregation, if I remember properly, was imposed upon people.  One would be hard-pressed to find such unjust imposition anywhere in the United States.  Varying ethnic groups choose to worship in different contexts. We even promote such differing contexts with our strategies to reach ethnic populations with beginning a ‘mission’ rather than incorporating the new work within the supporting Church from the very beginning..."Is the SBC racist?" [Both these comments alluded to Les Puryear #'s 11 & 20 respectively.  I addressed the entire comment to SBCToday for simple reasons of hurriedness and a collage of a comment.]

I think I might just be sick.[While Wade quipped about me as 'The same Southern Baptist minister who earlier confessed to possibly being a sick man', in reality, I was not only expressing my grief that we'd washed down the toilet in this thread but also because Les Puryear pushed the racism buttons and when cautioned, ended his comment with 'I’ll have the post asking the question “Are Southern Baptist Racist?” on my blog tomorrow.' Hence, my 'sick' feeling.  Yet, Wade had me saying this all to Dwight McKissic which I definitively was not.  For me, it is difficult to view this as an honest mistake.]   

Wade now sets up Dwight's position as one who steers the thread in a more positive direction:

In an attempt to get the comment stream back on track with the original question for which Dwight wrote the letter, Pastor Dwight McKissic laid down the racism concern and asked again asked the million dollar question - which had nothing to do with race.

Unfortunately, but now increasingly predictable, Wade skews what he wishes to make an opportune point.  It was not Dwight McKissic who, "in an attempt to get the comment stream back on track...laid down the racism concern" as Wade states. Rather, Robin Foster lamented (#26) the racial direction the thread had moved and hoped it could change. 

Indeed, in #25, just one comment before Robin Foster's deeply moving lament about the racial direction, hoping it to swing back, Dwight McKissic's comment was still racially charged.   Any reader may check and see. 

Then in Dwight's comment (#33) that Wade mentioned above, Dwight conceded to "Robin Foster...and Art Rogers...[who] are both good friends and both have lovingly cautioned me about raising the issue of race" and proceeded to ask his question: 

"Are persons who pray in tongues in their personal devotions welcome in SBC life...I would love for Peter and Chris to answer this question specifically.?"  

How Wade Burleson could completely rewrite a simple chronology as this blog thread when the facts are in open view for all to read and at the same time expect others to take not only his concerns seriously but to trust him when he mentions events, letters from security level missionaries, emails, etc etc that are to be taken by 'his word alone' is too fantastic for me to imagine.

Below is the response in full that met Dwight's request to me which, unfortunately now, both mars my heretofore homeplace heritage of Buttermilk and Cornbread and creates, at least in the pitiful mind of an Enid squat, the 'insensitive', 'white, Southern aristocracy' I allegedly wish to impose over people of color:

Dear Robin,

I can only hope under the Lord I was not the ‘master weaver’ who spun the web in the wrong direction. In my mind, I was only responding to what I myself considered a crooked railway…

Dwight,

If you are expecting a ‘yes/no’ response from me concerning your question, I’d get me a big glass of buttermilk and cornbread were I you, for a long time awaiteth thee still.

Indeed the last thing needed in a dialog like this is yes or no, at least from where I sit. Nor will I allow another to draw my own lines for acceptance/nonacceptance, thank you very much.

Understandably, you have made your demarcation line ‘tongues’. And, it appears you are prepared to live or die–be welcome or unwelcome, received or rejected, affirmed or denied–whether or not others accept ‘tongues’ If this is incorrect, please answer precisely why you keep asking that same question about ‘tongues’.

Nor do I necessarily accept your definition of ‘welcome’. You write “I define “welcome” as being eligible to serve as an entity head without receiving opposition based on ones private prayer life.”

For me, I do not include serving as ‘entity head’ within a five mile radius of being welcome. There are lots of things that may or may not prohibit me or others from being ‘entity head’.

Grace.  With that, I am…

Peter

I offer no commentary on what I've written on this last post at SBCToday.  Nor an apology do I offer for any pitiful, wrongheaded and skewed conclusions Wade Burleson or anyone else, for that matter, draws from, what was and will be again, a delightful  experience for me--Cornbread and Buttermilk--and in which I will, with utmost enthusiasm, invite any and all to join me in this Southern delicacy. 

Neither do I believe because I was talking to an African American man it matters one iota whether or not my Cornbread and Buttermilk should have been kept to myself.  It was a pleasurable image that I've often alluded to in conversation and will again, I assure you. 

Indeed, if Dwight McKissic and his family are ever driving through West Georgia, an open invitation stands to them to sit with me for a delicious glass of Buttermilk and Cornbread.  Of course, we'll have some southern fried chicken as well.  I only trust mentioning southern fried chicken will not send off another mindless, dopey allusion from Enid, Oklahoma toward the insensitive, 'white, Southern aristocracy' southern fried chicken inevitably conjures up.   

I do now, however, offer my sincerest apologies to the readers of SBCTomorrow.  Not for what I've written about Cornbread and Buttermilk understand.  Rather for indulging so long in an apologia concerning myself. I really, really am not interested in developing narcissistic writing.

Grace to all.  With that, I am...

Peter

Comments

[Chris]

Peter,
I commented on Wade last night and thought I'd post my last comment to him here also. I think we will be much more capable to deal with issue when we quit attempting to raise suspicions and impune character. Indeed, G&T was not full of grace and certianly squewed of truth.
Comments below.

"Wade,
I stumbled across this last night and commented 3 xs. I too with Mr. Paden ask for proof. Just for the record. I am white, I attended public school in the ghetto 90% black. I have shared common cup and spoons and forks with blacks and worked to heal race relations since I was a youth. I also pastored in several southern states. I was awarded in 2006 by the NAACP as a pastor who is a community change agent in a black/Hispanic community. So, I guess these might serve well to validate my point. RACE is a good way to make money and political points. I have seen racial tensions worsen over the last 20 years as a result of rhetoric like you use, particularly elevating colloquialisms to racial slurs. The best way to overcome it is to stop talking about it and just do something! We are Christians, not hyphenated. We are Americans, not hyphenated. You want to make a statement, next time walk through a depressed area with a bottle of water and give a brother some of it and then drink after him, don’t wipe the bottle, show you have no fear, only love, and then the conversation can get started."

[Chris]

"squewed" should be "skewed"

[Lee Shelton IV]

I'm from the South, and when I saw Wade's post I was baffled. There's nothing inherently racist about cornbread and buttermilk. Now, if you had mentioned fried okra and sweet tea, then he would have a point. :)

(Seriously, that was one of my favorite treats when I was a kid!)

[Luke]

Peter,
Well, I've read all the comments over there at SBC Today and then I went to G&T and read over there. My take is as follows:

Dwight played the race card under advisement that he should not and later realized that the counsel given to him should have been heeded. In discussing PPL, I see no need for race to even be brought into the equation. It, PPL, is either Biblical or not Biblical irregardless of the race of the person participating.

There is currently much to be addressed in the area of race relations within the SBC and Christendom. And I'll even go further to state that it isn't simply a "white, Southern aristocracy" problem. There is no room in this field for any race to throw stones.

I saw where NO ONE in the comment thread at SBC Today took your words to be as offensive as Wade portrays them to be. And if Dwight was so offended, why would he not have taken you to task. He certainly is not silent when it comes to speaking out for what he believes. Of course, having read at Wade's blog, this would simply mean that I wouldn't recognize it if it, racism, slapped me in the forehead.

It is obvious that Wade does not like you and it is equally apparent that he is looking for anything on your part that could give him fodder for his blog. You sly dog Peter, just wanting attention for yourself. And who would've thunk that buttermilk would've done it.

Finally, Peter, your heart before God totally apart from how men perceived you is first and foremost. If Jesus does not condemn you, then certainly you stand on solid ground. And, which also means that you owe no one any other explanation than what you have offered here. Secondly, you have taken the step to clear up the misconception of others about your post. For those who have gone so far as to accuse you without knowing the facts, lets just rest knowing that we too have done so before and found repentance and forgiveness as I'm sure that they will as well provided they are truly seeking the mind of Christ.

Lastly, buttermilk and cornbread??? It sure was a reminder of my PawPaw and MawMaw. I never have been much on that though. However, pass the biscuits and gravy with little bits of sausage and I'll join you at your table.

As I learned from one of Grosey's post, when the ship breaks apart, grab a board and surf for Jesus.

Blessings

[Robin Foster]

Peter

In reading your comment, I never read it to be nothing more than you saying, "Relax."

My friend, you have unfortunately been given a bulls eye in this petty war of character assassination.

Wade took aim and fired.

Take care and remember Who has you!

God Bless

[Jim Champion]

My perspective on this issue is much like Alan Cross' - from reading Peters work for the past year or so, I have never detected anything remotely racist. I think that Peter's cornbread comment was unfortunate, yet not intended in any way shape or form to be racist - it was unfortunate that it came in a thread that had delved into SBC institutional racism, and the statement left itself open to perceived racism.

I grew up in whitebread, middle class america. The only African Americans I encountered were the two or three that attended my 1200 student high school. I went to a small private christian college, we had very few Africans or African Americans. My parents rasied us to be color blind, or as color blind as possible. I do not recall that they ever used a racist term about any minority.

It was not until I began my professional career that I began to encounter people of different races, and developed a life long friendship with an African American man that I began to receive my education on what it means to be black in America in the south. My friend grew up Dallas, in the shadow of Fair Park (a poor predominately black section of Dallas). Attended an all black high school - poor teachers, second hand books, no lab equipment etc - you know, separate but not even close to equal. He was an amazing athlete, ran the 800 meters, went to a big 12 school on a track scholarship. Of course he had to be careful where he chose to run in the dallas area, as he was stopped many times as he ran through white areas of town. After college, you would think that employers (and this was in the early 80s) would have been falling all over themselves to hire him as he was smart, well spoken etc - not so much. He wound up taking a job that was quite beneath his education etc - yet has wound up doing well. The overt and subtle racism he has encountered has boggled my mind.

All that to say that when I see someone like Pastor McKissik castigated for playing the "race card" I just shake my head. None of us can relate to what it meant to grow up black in the day and time that he grew up. To walk into the Ec building in Nashville and see what he saw - i truly dont know why predominately black churches stay part of the SBC.

I am fortunate to be part of a semi racially diverse church. Our deacon body has several hispanic men and one African American man. Our pastor plans to have either an African American or Hispanic man as his associate pastor as soon as we can affored to bring on another staff member. On the other side of the church issue - my wife and I belonged to a church in Plano, Texas in the mid 80s when west Plano, where this church was located) was the hot growing spot for very upwardly mobile professionals - one of the deacons told me that this church would be uncomfortable with black members. We left shortly thereafter.

Jim Champion

[J. Dale Weaver, M. Div.]

Peter:

Both as a Southerner, and as a Baptist, it angers me deeply when one assumes and uses stereotypes to label people as "racists." I'm tired of the race card being dealt by someone whenever and against whomever they wish because they think they have something to gain -- and it can immediately shut down the argument of the accused.

Whether it was Burleson, or McKissic, or whomever -- They should be ashamed of the profane use of such cynical tactics -- and they should repent.

Peter, I don't know you all that well, but I know you better than to believe this tripe.

Blessings Brother,

Dale

[Chris]

Peter,
I get it. You need to repent. That cornbread and buttermilk got you in trouble with your temple not your talk. While your words were of no harm that extra sugar you indulged has been unjust to your pancreas. You ought to repent and go get you a big ol' bowl of soup and plate of salad.

[SBC reader]

Peter,

Ever since you started exposing Wades' true motives he's been after you. That's what happens when light exposes dark. And sometimes dark can get pretty desperate. Once again Wade is appealing to the "emotions" of people. I always pray that others will see the real motives behind Wades' writing. It's really all about Wade. Obviously he'll stop at nothing to further his own personal goals.

Please keep writing and seeking truth, Peter. There are many of us out here praying for you.

[Trish]

I have been greatly discouraged in the last few days at what I have been reading on the blogs in the Christian community. This takes the cake.

Wade's behavior is despicable for a man who claims to be a Christian. I always thought that the right thing to do is to go to the other person first, in private, and confront them with the perceived sin. I don't see anything in your recollection of events that shows Wade contacted you for clarification. No, it appears he judged you guilty and declared it to all his blog readers.

I am saying far less than what I feel in my heart right now over this and some other events. I'm praying for wisdom and peace for the burdens I have about my brethren. My heart is heavy because of the behavior of my brethren and it pains me to see what we are doing to the glorious name of Christ.

Trish

[Karen in OK]

Peter, I am sorry for being the one to mention you by name in the comment thread on Wade Burleson's site. I should have been more general.

[Ron P.]

Peter,

What else would you expect from Wade? He is dishonest in his methods. You correctly note his incessant use of taking things out of context. I do agree with Robin that the comment was unfortunate, but that was because I did not understand it. Now it makes perfect sense. But in no way was it racist (even before your post here). This is another of example of where the dissenters want to lead: Political Correctness. I guess we need to add that to the list of moderate/liberal movements that Enid is advocating, along with the politics of personal destruction. Since Wade can not hold with you on an intellectual or reasoned basis, he has to attack you to discredit your view. You have now joined Dr. Patterson as a primary target.

I do have one question though? Before Wade blogged about you, did Wade call you? Did he email you or contact you? Did he pray with you? According to him it would be wrong for him to draw any conclusions or make any public comments unless he did that first. If he did not, then he is a hypocritical beguiler.

Blessings Brother!

Ron P.

[Chris]

Karen,

I don't imply that I am speaking for Peter, but I think you have no need to apologize. I am grateful to see some out here have sensitive consciences, but you have no need to feel remorse. Wade cleverly concealed Peter's name but tied all the links so others would find it. (That’s how I found out.) I assume his supposing to not be impugned since he did not name the name himself. Sorry, name or no name his finger was directly pointing to Peter for all who were in the room watching in blog land. He need take responsibility not you.

Chris

[Steve]

Peter, you are a good friend, and I did not read your comment as carrying any racial slur or overtones whatsoever.
Steve

[Dan Paden]

Hmmm. Without wishing to get into all the messy water between you and Wade Burleson (I know nothing of this history), I'll just note that your explanation of the events seems reasonable to me.

Kind of what I expected.

[Joe Stewart]

Peter:
Let me get this straight.

You have the audacity to continually challenge Wade's point of view.

Such audacity gets you banned from his blogging world.

Then he takes pot shots to which you cannot respond.

It sounds like you need more than buttermilk and cornbread.

Blessings,
Joe

[wade burleson]

Peter,

What is a squat?

Blessings,

Wade

P.S. Maybe I should ask Joe Stewart if 'squat' qualifies as a pot shot since he is sensitive about such matters.

Smile.

[selahV]

Peter: Oh, for Pete's sake! This is simply disgusting!!!

(exclamation points intended) :)

While I have long-held love-affair with buttermilk, I never drink it with cornbread. I just get me a big old glass and keep pouring and chug-a-luggin' till the quart is gone. Mmmmn, mmmmmn, good! Something about being raised in the Tennessee hollows does that to ya. Next thing ya know, commenting on Grama's gooseberry pie and hot chocolate gravy and wringing chicken's necks will be deemed racist remarks, too.

Now, let's see. Out of my statement above, Wade might now be able to take my words and say I admitted to a long-held love affair and that I love to chug-a-lug quarts, while sadistically wringing a chicken's neck.

There's no need to worry about his yada, yada, yada, Peter. God is your deliverer. Your integrity lacks nothing and his disparaging words do nothing to add to his. For the record, this is the "drip, drip, drip of contention" I was alluding to in a previous post of yours wherein you exposed a wart as a wart, and I was called on the carpet by another blogger in the thread for unduly charging bloggers of causing contention.

Wade's post wasn't worth addressing Peter. Truly. For him to rip your words out of context is similar to how another blogger I know ripped out mine not too long ago. I didn't even bother to comment on the other blogger's mention of my name on their blog. Ain't worth the misuse of my Lord's time.

For what purpose does one brother choose to surgically remove another brother's comments and insinuate that he is a racist? What compels him to do so? What joy is there in painting another person black (as in sin) by reading words unwritten between the letters of a phrase? Bitterness?

"Hatred stirs up contentions, but love covers all transgressions. On the lips of him who has discernment skillful and godly Wisdom is found, but discipline and the rod are for the back of him who is without sense and understanding." Prov.10:12,13.

Don't you be eating anymore cornbread and drinking anymore buttermilk till next New Year's, now. And you tell Kathy I said no red-eye gravy either! selahV

[Benji Ramsaur]

Peter,

You said "Neither do I believe because I was talking to an African American man it matters one iota whether or not my Cornbread and Buttermilk should have been kept to myself."

I would disagree with you here since it can lead to a misunderstanding.

However, I have read your explanation as to why you said what you said and believe you.

Therefore, as a member of the new covenant community who desires to submit myself to the law of Christ, I ask for your forgiveness for making this erroneous statement about what you said:

"The way 'buttermilk and cornbread' is used in this sentence is belittling."

Please forgive me for my false accusation of you.

In Christ

Benji Ramsaur

[Kerri]

So sorry you were attacked as you were. You handled yourself very well in this. That assumptions were made and cheap shots were taken without ever consulting with you first as to your intentions is dastardly and underhanded. Certainly not IMB board or SBC president quality. Thanks for your integrity in how you handled this. My grandparents on my mother's side were very fond of their occasional corn bread and buttermilk indulgences. I hope yours was good!

[selahV]

Benji: did you get my cookies? selahV

[Benji Ramsaur]

SelahV,

Yes, thank you.

Yummmmy

[Trish]

Thank you Benji for restoring a little bit of faith in my brethren. I read your comments on Wade's blog and was very disappointed in you because I knew you visited here frequently and I would have hoped that you knew better than to think Peter would behave in the manner that Wade was accusing him.

Seriously, your public apology is very heartwarming to a heart that has been breaking today and seeking direction from the Lord on why He wanted me in the Baptist world when I have seen so much terrible treatment of fellow Christians since becoming a Baptist.

You are the second affirmation I have received this evening that I am where I am supposed to be and that things are better than they appear.

I thank my Lord Jesus for communicating His care and concern for me through my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Isn't it awesome to be used by God when you didn't even know you were being used, that your obedience to Him is a blessing to someone else?

God Bless,
Trish

[Tim G]

Peter,
You have laid this mess out correctly. It was created with intent to harm you and was lacking totally in Grace and Truth. The whole post over there is disgusting. Truth was not present. Grace was not applied. It was a cheap political shot. Hang in there. I personnally like the cornbread but prefer Wolf Brand chili and Slim Delight Milk with Fritos and Cheese! great for the satisfaction but not for the heart! Neither was Wades post good for the heart or the SBC.

[peter lumpkins]

All,

I'm much too tired to speak an individually needed word of thanks to you for the encouragement I have received. I did not think for even a moment those who read regularly what I have written here would take the bait that Mr. Burleson had dangled.

For over a year, I engaged Mr. Burleson at his blog. Indeed there were only a few of us who risked the wrath of his community by dissenting from his ideas.

What I think we accomplished--though most of us have now either tired of it and moved on or were flagged and could not return--was demonstrably showing Mr. Burleson's chief skills are in whipping up excitement rather than either serious biblical exposition or deeply thought through solutions.

I find irony in the fact that, the very reason Mr. Burleson banned me from his blog surrounded my undying insistence that he was horridly disrespectful of an entire sub-culture of people in our midst--The Mentally Challenged--by referring to them as 'imbeciles'.

Perhaps our Enid blogging friend perceived an 'opportune' moment for 'payback'. I don't know. I do know that, given the flawed structure of his post, as I've pointed out here, there is little doubt, at least in my mind, the post was intentionally staged to offer the maximum personal damage possible.

I think it was Ron who queried if Wade called me. The answer is, he did not. No contact was made about the comment.

Know, though, that would be a breach only stemming from what he may require of himself and/or what he publicizes he will do.

For my part, I do not expect nor require a personal phone call. However, were I going to brand a person with a scarlet 'R" across his forehead--racism being the absolute worst possible social sin of our culture--I hope, under God, I would at least tease it out with him/her a bit on the comment thread to make darn sure I had a solid rock case before I struck my match, lit my fire and watched him burn.

Karen, my sister. Do not at all feel any obligation to apologize to me for mentioning my name. Our brother Chris is correct...

I cannot help myself in this one indulgence. Mr Burleson has whipped up a feeding frenzy concerning whether or not I am a racist on his blog. It's not pretty. And, know it does make one feel a little like dirt to read the thread--especially when you are the dirt about which they speak.

By the way, my heart teared as I read supporting comments of many of you. Even Dan Paden, whom I have never seen around and who does not know me at all defended, not me personally. Again for all Dan knew I WAS and AM a card-carrying member of a skinhead group.

Rather Dan simply pushed Mr. Burleson's community for sufficient evidence to fit the crime for which they insisted this 'guy' had committed.

Personally--but for obvious reasons, biased--I think Dan succeeded in demonstrating that if racism existed--and it still could in Dan's mind at that time--it would require substantially more evidence to convict than Mr. Burleson or his community could actually produce. Dan's dialog is masterful and Mr. Burleson was wise to avoid the dance.

Now my indulgence: Interestingly, Mr. Burleson torched me for my alleged 'insensitive' racial slur I offered toward Dwight McKissic about Buttermilk & Cornbread. I have dealt with the comment at length and, from my view, sufficiently.

Yet Mr. Burleson on this very post thread made what could be taken as a demeaning, racial comment toward our Grosey.

Steve Grose made this comment: "As a 5 year old I was kicked out of a shop for being black. I have never found PL to be racially prejudiced against me in any way..."

To which Wade Burleson said...

Steve,
Though I have shared just one meal with you when I was in Australia in 2003...and if I remember correctly, it was a very cordial time of fellowship during the meal - I do not recall you being 'black.' People often say I am 'color blind' but thou almost persuadest me.
:)"

What does Mr. Burleson mean by not recalling Steve being 'black'? I don't know. But that's an odd thing to say to a man of color, is it not? And what's with the smiley face after the cryptic saying 'thou almost persuadest me"? Is possessing light skin as a man of color also a funny thing to Mr Burleson? I don't know.

Perhaps Mr. Burleson will show back up and explain this odd exchange that his entire community allowed him a free pass. In fact, I hope he does.

Know though that whether Mr Burleson does or doesn't show back up and clarify precisely the intent of his odd words to Steve, none of us--certainly not I--should judge him a racist without more to go on than that.

In short, enough evidence exists to assume him a squat*, but not enough to assume him a racist.

Grace, everyone. With that, I am...

Peter

*Mr Burleson, you asked what a squat is. I will not tell you what a squat is--look it up for yourself--but I will tell you what a squat is not: A squat is not a despicable racist by which you, sir, have falsely accused me...

[Steve]

funny, Wade says that our fellowship was "cordial" over a dinner some years ago. The truth is, it went from warm to "cordial" when my wife and I declined to drink alcohol with him, due (as I explained to him) to the rate of family alcoholism (my wife's mother died of alcohol related causes.. I didn't see her sober one day in 10 years until her conversion, then she stopped alcohol immediately and until she died of heart disease and kidney failure) and the high rate of alcoholism in the Australian comunity, particularly among indigenous peoples.
The dark skinned girl on the wedding page of our church website is my daughter, marrying a part chinese part maori boy.
I cannot help but think the original reply to me on Wade's blog got pretty close to unpleasant.
Steve

[selahV]

Well, I did it, Peter. I broke one of my resolutions. I went to a blogsite that is notorious for stirring up strife and read till I got sick of the comments and then went and got me a big glass of gingerale to settle my stomach. Is it okay to say gingerale?
I decided to just come back here and say I am so sorry for the slanderous remarks made against you over there. I am equally heartbroken as Trish for the actions of a man who is called of God to preach the Gospel but continues to post articles that do nothing to glorify Christ but cause dissension amongst the brethren and dump on the SBC as a whole. Why is he on the IMB anyway? selahV

[wade burleson]

Steve,

Your comment about alcohol is unworthy of a response, except to say that those who know me, including my wife, my worship leader and his wife, and a host of other BGCO employees - all of whom ate with me every meal in Australia - know that your comment is nothing but a blatant lie to attempt to impugn my character. The fact that you feel the need to do such a thing is unexplainable but not unexpected. It has happened before.

Peter,

I'm not sure why you think yourself banned from my blog. I don't moderate comments, and you have commented on multiple occasions since your unfortunate remarks. Not the 'cornbread and buttermilk' remark, but the remark accusing me of ridiculing the mentally disabled, one of whom happens to be my beloved neice. As to calling you personally, I seem to remember you telling me when I called you over the other remark that caused offense that I should not have called, for you always stand by every word you write. If for some reason I misunderstood your desires at the time, I will be more than happy to converse with you by phone. You have my cell number.

Trish,

I am on the IMB because the convention elected me to serve Southern Baptists. I will continue to serve all Southern Baptists to the best of my ability.

Blessings To All,

Wade Burleson

[Steve]

That is sad Wade, very sad. Perhaps you should check your facts.
My wife and I were so offended by your behaviour at Tony Roma's American Ribs restaurant in Sydney that we were insisting on paying for our own meal. However, you required that it be paid by the the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma gold credit card that you had, against my strong protests. I would suggest that that receipt for the four meals at Tony Roma's American Ribs restaurant (my wife and I, your wife and you), on the evening of the Singing Churchmen's recital at the Sydney Opera House in May 2003 would be available for perusal by any person who cares to check it with the Convention. That should be available for any Oklahoman Baptist pastor to check.
To state that your associates ate with you at every meal is incorreect, as the bill and credit card receipt of that night will demonstrate.

[wade burleson]

Mr. Grosey,

When a man lies, he answers to God. I can do nothing but hand you over to Him. Your allegation is patently absurd. Were I inclined to have a glass of wine at a dinner, it would not be with a total stranger, it would not be while functioning as the President of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma and it would not be before or after I preached the gospel at the Sydney Opera House.

Finally, the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma has never issued a credit card of any kind to her President - past or present. Your allegation, similar to your past allegations designed to assault my character, are patently false and easily disproven.

I will pray for your soul Steve, which seems to me, at least at this time, in need of divine grace. I do wish it without measure for you. I choose not to respond to any further attacks from you.

May God have mercy on you, your family, and your ministry.

Wade

[Steve]

Wade,
If someone wants to track down the credit card receipt, they are welcome. I am sure that the receipts have to be held for a number of years for taxation purposes.
My Diary says May 6th 2003.
The time was about 5:00 pm.
Tony Roma's American Ribs restaurant in Sydney.
But really, this little outburst is just a diversion from the fiasco you have made for yourself by your false accusation against Peter.
I am sure a simple sorry may help to restore things.
Steve

[peter lumpkins]

All,

Well, someone did not get sleep this evening, it looks to me.  I slept as cozy as my tiny little Sofie (granddaughter).

Benji,

Thank you for your words and know that are humbly received.  I do appreciate the basis from which you appeal for requesting forgiveness as the community of our Lord, a New Covenant community.  My soul is warmed by such.  And consider the matter fully at peace with both the God of two men and the two men of God. 

What I am particularly attracted to Benji, is that the reconnection and closure you sought here was not at all driven by any political fanfare.  Rather it is clear you sought such out of a genuine spiritual connectedness between you, your Lord, your Church and your fellow man.

Kerri, 

I feel the balm of Gilead run like lotion  through my heart's interior as I read your words.  Yet, my painful struggle is, if I'd only lived up better to what you have described...

SelahV,

Do you not know?  Were you not warned?  Not by me or others, of course, but by your Father and His Father?  A soul such as yourself who floats on seas of calmness and bliss, could not, for a fraction of time, gain any solace from observing a bloody slaughter...

Tim,

My brother, you are ever welcome here.  You yourself have experienced Enid's storm and by Heaven's grace, survived her worst typhoon...

Grace.  With that, I am...

Peter

[Trish]

Wade,

Please check the comments more carefully before posting a response to someone. I did not make the comment about you are on the IMB, although I agree with the sentiment that SelahV expressed.

If I have my dates right as to when you were elected to the IMB, I wasn't even a Southern Baptist at the time, so I take no responsibility or credit for your election to such a position.

Trish

[peter lumpkins]

Steve,

I trust you well today. Your mention of alcoholism affecting your family connects us somewhat at another level. I am sorry, my brother.

Also, I honestly did not know you and Mr. Burleson had met or had fellowship 'cordial' or warm. Nor was I shocked to hear him ordering wine for meals. It is only consistent with what he both believes and teaches.

I am aware of his stated and, no doubt, kept commitment to the IMB trustees that he would abstain while on the Board. I was unaware he had placed himself on voluntary 'leave of rations' while serving at the OBC.

And, as for Mr. Burleson identifying you a liar, Grosey, understand: it will, unfortunately for Mr. Burleson, take much more to convince most sober, reasonable people that you are a liar just because he says you are.

From the way I see it, Grosey, if those things a person says, when checked by the available sources, present a pattern of careless mistake, skewed context, rearranged chronology and sometimes reckless misuse, how could it possibly be expected that other assertions which lack verifiable sources would be acceptable at face value-- especially assertions offered by the same person who possesses the aforementioned pattern?

Know also, my brother Grosey, nothing I have observed, nothing I have read, nothing you state you believe, no comment I have found you made would indicate to me you possess a disregard for telling the truth.

Grace my Brother. Perhaps one day I'll find myself in a pleasant time to visit down-under. I will look forward to warm fellowship--minus the wine, of course.

With that, I am...

Peter

[selahV]

Peter, yes, my brother, I was warned. You warned me in 2006 without mentioning any particular names or blogs that there were some so evil in the blogworld that they would stop at nothing to bring a dissenting voice against them to ruin--even so far as to spread lies, write bitter innuendo and lead others to believe the trash in order to destroy reputations.

I realized then that you were most likely correct in your assessment but never dreamed that some of those who would do such things would be Christians considered respectable in their respective communities. I was an eternal optimist, I suppose. I wanted to believe that grace and truth and peace and patience, and tolerance and steadfast admonition of impropriety would sink into the recesses of the tainted hearts harboring guile and deceit and lacking sincere grace and truth. All the while I kept praying that the smaller infractions of snide, pious remarks and condescending attitudes were moments of temporary backsliding. I overlooked much of the sarcasm and satirical remarks and tried to see it as macho bravado logic. I truly believed that the few among us would somehow be admonished and exhorted enough by discerning peers and those in authority that change would be seen in words, and actions.

Now I see that the same are inbred so deeply in some folk's hearts that it will take a Spirit-moving penetration of earthquake proportions to bring about a brokenness commensurate with the will of God. To that end I pray and pray most heartily.

May those who find pleasure in writing innuendo, hateful personal opinion, unsubstantiated smear and smut, be brought to their knees by the all-powerful El Elyon. May our Father in heaven move in the hearts of those so blinded by the smear that they shun all involved. This is a time for men and women of God to remove themselves completely from the midst of the wolves in sheep's clothing. Have nothing to do with them. Nothing. Let God have His way in their lives and show them for exactly what they are. selahV

[peter lumpkins]

All,

The note from Benji and my response to him prompted a reflection I think needs noting.

Had things been different with this particular situation over my self-consciously innocent words to Dwight, to solicit in either me or him, a deeper look into what was said or wasn't said, none of this firewood would have been fodder for flames of further accusation, blame assignment or tragic announcements that someone...anyone...was or is racist.

Let me give you an example where my own heart's pride was quickly bled dry.

In a conversation over at SBCToday a few months back--what it was, I cannot recall, but it would be easy enough to find if anyone desired--a lengthy thread bore a brief exchange between Mr. Burleson and me. As my writing style dictates, I employed the image of a pig's fixed nature in my comment to him.

A few minutes later, I received via email from a brother in St. Louis, a warm encouragement from someone who, for reasons unknown to me, happens to enjoy reading my posts. Then, this brother whom I did not know, who reads yet never comments on my site, said something that pierced me: he said something like 'I need to tell you, I thought the pig comment was completely out of character for you." [Actually, I posted the email on the thread so you can read what he literally wrote if interested (names protected.]

I explained in my comment the analogy was with the pig's stubborn nature, not the pig itself and I publicly apologized to Mr. Burleson that the analogy could so easily misfire and my insinuation to him was that he was no better than a pig. I expressed my sorry I used it. Mr. Burleson returned a cordial comment and life went on.

As far as I'm concerned, the way that situation was teased out, while not perfect, surely reflects what ought ever play out with conflict between Kingdom believers: One believer affirming, yet cautioning another believer. The affirmed believer, yet cautioned believer, hears the nudging of the Spirit or the voice of the Bible, consequently surrending his weapon. A voluntary apology made, a public acceptance offered and the Kingdom of God wins.

What happened with my words to Dwight is tragic beyond words. Rather than questioned, they were politicized--exploited if you will--with an inexplicable purpose in mind. After all, who am I in this matrix of things that should command so much energy and public attraction?

Now, Mr. Burleson attempts to exploit a public apology from me to Dwight. Read the thread. This is American cultural politics at his finest (worst is better). Political figures get caught up in this perpetually.

Here's how it works: Their political adversary scours for an opportune time--a questionable joke, a misspelled word, a gaffe, etc etc. What do they do with it? Exploit it, of course. Are they really worried that their poor little animal they've caught in their trap has offended with his gaffe? Perhaps. But not nearly as interested in rightful understanding and reconciliation made with the 'offended' party do they stand than in the booty they will get as they exploit the incident.

Mr. Burleson, for whatever disagreements we own between us, is a skilled public figure. Yet, I do not stand down. I resent, in my deepest being, my words about Cornbread and Buttermilk being exploited as racist for public advantage. I reject outright any attempt by Mr. Burleson or Mr. Burleson's community to exploit an apology that would not, under the present circumstances, be worth the spit on my tongue as I uttered it.

No thanks, Mr. Burleson. Political advantage is a commodity toward which I have no insatiable aspiration. My soul is not for sale, especially at the miserably cheap price of an enriched public persona.

With that, I am...

Peter

[selahV]

Peter: I remember that statement you refer to and how you apologized to Wade. That was one of the times I felt heartened with his demeanor.

Yesterday when I read your post, I had to go to SBCToday and read what occurred because I've really not been up-to-snuff with other blogs of late. I do drop in here and read...but was unaware of any of the discussion on praying in tongues, race, TBN that was going on at the Today site.

When I read what you wrote here, I decided to have an open mind and read what Wade wrote on his post. What struck me as odd in the scheme of things was that Wade writes that he knew how the words had affected Dwight, yet he didn't contact you either by email, or phone to give you the benefit of the doubt that your comment regarding cornbread and buttermilk was an innocent remark completely. Instead, as you so cleary point out, he (having already known you to be a man quick to apologize to him for a pig statement) decided to exploit the statement and use it to color your heart black. I do not comprehend how this could be going on in a Christian community where our purpose is to glorify Jesus Christ. There is absolutely nothing in Wade's post that adds to the glorification or manifestation of a spirit-filled nature. I hope and pray that his peers look clearly at his motives and intentions here and are given the discernment of God in his aspirations to smear another man of God. He is clearly wrong here. And the sad part is he doesn't care at all. Not at all that he has hurt you, or the Kingdom of God in the process. selahV

[Trish]

SelahV,

You have articulated well by thoughts and feelings on this sad state of affairs. I have not said much because my heart has been ugly regarding this event and I have not trusted myself with words because each time I tried, they did not come out in a manner that I felt did honor to our Lord. I did make a few remarks, but feel I could have communicated better, choosing instead to let emotions get the better of me.

Peter, I am sorry for not being more selective with my words as you know I usually strive to think them out better, but I did not do that here. Wade sure does seem to have a way of bringing out the worst in some of us and I for one need to stop giving him such power.

On a different note Peter, you must scare Wade for him to go to so much trouble to write that post and paint such a distorted picture of things. You must therefore be doing the right things and you need to keep doing the right things.

You have my prayers in this matter, that you be successful in continuing to point out the fallacies of Wade's words and arguments and that you open the eyes of some of his supporters so they see that he is not the person he professes to be.

God Bless,
Trish

[peter lumpkins]

Mr. Burleson,

Why do you punish yourself by continually asserting things people can check? First, it was both a Mr. Crowder and I whom you publicly banned on that post. The reason you cited was totally unchristian behavior. Of course, the comment where said you banned me is gone along with all the 'innocent' remarks you said about the Mentally Challenged being 'imbeciles'. It was a very public event and even your own community knows this to be so, however.

I never understood why, if my own comments were so horrid, you would not allow them to hang me both here and elsewhere. Rather you take the completely innoculous words of 'cornbread and buttermilk' and do a post. Mr. Burleson, I am dense sometimes, but not that dense.

Secondly, I've commented on what post of the many you cite I have since you publicly locked your door? One comment please. Just one. I don't think I've ever even tried to log on again since that post, much less comment.

Thirdly, contrary to your confidence I possess your cell phone number, you are mistaken. Just because you called me on my phone does not mean I saved your number.

Nor am I necessarily interested in talking. And, you could not be more properly correct: I stand by what I write. Until, that is, it is shown I am mistaken.

Pertaining to my cornbread and buttermilk comment, it is far from settled that I am mistaken; to the contrary, it is you, Mr. Burleson, who is caught with your skirt up.

Finally, I hoped you'd have explained your puzzling words to a man of color about his light skin, etc. I did not expect you to come over here, especially in the heat of this present exchange, and make things worse by calling him a liar. I am 54 years of age. I never stop being amazed.

With that, I am...

Peter

[peter lumpkins]

Trish,

For my part, I do not at all see, in your words, any inappropriate overtones. Almost to a syllable, you state clearly the heart of the matter you see.

And, I do thank you for the kind words. They are encouraging to me. And, with the strong circle I possess in my little sphere of Kingdom life in Georgia, along with the prayers of God's people, I do not see how life could get better short of Heaven.

Peace, Trish, my sister. With that, I am...

Peter

[scott shaffer]

Hi Peter,

Take heart for brother Burleson has moved you out of his crosshairs and turned them on Al Mohler. I can't tell you how disappointed I have been the past two days with WB's posts.

I am particularly sympathetic with your situation as I found myself in a similar place 30 years ago when I made an innocent remark - and by innocent I mean there was no malice intent, forethought, or even an idea that such a comment would be construed as racist. The comment deeply offended an African-American friend who wouldn't have anything to do with me afterward even though I apologized and asked for forgiveness.

So while I believe you had no ill motives, I also believe it is possible that your words offended DM. Therefore, I encourage you to contact him and set things right, if you haven't already done so.

[volfan007]

peter,

wade ought to be completely ashamed of such an out and out. blatant attempt to personally attack you. he has tried to make something out of nothing. something he seems to love to do. he seems to love stirring up trouble and passively aggresively attacking people that he does not like, or that dont agree with him. just ask dr. patterson and dr. mohler and dr. land and dr. john floyd and jerry corbaley and grosey...and the list goes on.

my dad loves cornbread and buttermilk as well. i've seen him eat it and enjoy it often. when did this become a "black" thing? in all reality, this is a "southern" thing. and, for someoene to try to use this to make a southernner look racist is just inexcusable, and it ought to open the eyes of many.

peter, i'm sorry that you have been put thru this, and that you have been personally attacked in such a slanderous, low life way.

hang in there, bro. they also persecuted the prophets of old.

david

[Tim G]

Wade,
You have now commented on this blog and several others that you do not moderate comments on yours. Please know that those of us who have received from you or your secretary comments deleted know that your statements are false. As you attempt to lift yourself up as the sole defender of truth and grace, I in truth and grace offer the opportunity for you to correct this. You do moderate and when you are unavailable, your secretary or someone else moderates. Please speak the truth to this. Deleting comments equal moderation - do they not?

[Katie]

Hi Trish & SelahV,
A number of months ago I decided to never again visit Mr. Burleson's blog and I am happy to report that it has been one of the best decisions I've made. Reading his blog had the same affect on me that it seems to have on you both. That blog is the very antithesis of "grace" and "truth" and I encourage others to boycott it!

Peter,
I don't comment very frequently here, but I enjoy SBC Tomorrow and feel like I know you. I'm sorry that Mr. B., once again, has criticized someone else in order to elevate himself. I feel certain that one day his deceitfulness and bullying will catch up with him. When that happens, I will feel not one ounce of sympathy for him.

Katie

[Benji Ramsaur]

Peter,

Thank you for your grace.

And I was wrong on my part to not seek an explanation from you before I said anything negative in relation to you on the internet.

In Christ

Benji Ramsaur

[davidinflorida]

Peter,

I am with you on this one brother. This whole thing is not good and makes no sense to me.

On the bright side, I have never tried buttermilk before (as far as I know). I guess I led a sheltered life. I have descided that the next trip I make to the grocery store, buttermilk will be in my bag.

I will give you my review when I get a chance.

Carry-on

Dave

[volfan007]

dave,

fair warning...buttermilk is not for the faint of heart.

david

[volfan007]

peter,

btw, what part of middle tn did you grow up in? my dad was born in wayne county near clifton, tn.

david

[peter lumpkins]

Katie,

Thank you for sharing your heart, Katie. And, I realize many more read here than comment here and I think that's o.k. :^) May the Lord richly bless...

David (volfan)

I appreciate your contribution, David. With you, I think it fundamentally wrong to equate 'southern culture' with 'racist culture' as did Mr Burleson with his 'Southern Aristocracy' comment.

For me, one must separate those despicable elements of 'southern culture'--like slavery, for example--from those elements that, while 'southern', are not at all despicable--cornbread.

David (Florida)

I understand, David. Thank you. And, I trust we may have that coffee in St. Simons sometime in 2008. Let's try to make that a goal.

I hope a gracious Lord's Day for all. With that, I am...

Peter

[Byroniac]

Peter:

I have an off-topic question from the "and now for something completely different..." category. What movie or video did that image in the upper-right corner of your blog, that you use to link home, come from? Curiosity killed the cat.